{"id":1205,"date":"2021-03-17T11:34:38","date_gmt":"2021-03-17T11:34:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/covid1984.nohost.me\/blog\/?p=1205"},"modified":"2022-08-20T11:07:22","modified_gmt":"2022-08-20T11:07:22","slug":"lorsquil-sagit-de-vaccins-soudainement-de-ou-avec-redevient-important","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/2021\/03\/17\/lorsquil-sagit-de-vaccins-soudainement-de-ou-avec-redevient-important\/","title":{"rendered":"Lorsqu'il s'agit de vaccins, soudainement \"de ou avec\" redevient important"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Un article r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur de la part de OffGuardian sur le changement de discours entre \"mourir avec une maladie\" ou \"mourir d'une maladie\", en particulier en ce qui concerne le covid et le vaccin.<br>Si la question avait \u00e9t\u00e9 retir\u00e9 du d\u00e9bat concernant la mortalit\u00e9 du covid, elle revient en force avec la mortalit\u00e9 du vaccin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-subtle-pale-pink-background-color has-background\"><tbody><tr><td><em>Pour les articles qui ne sont pas en fran\u00e7ais, vous pouvez utiliser <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.deepl.com\/translator\" target=\"_blank\">DeepL<\/a> pour traduire le texte en fran\u00e7ais.<\/em><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/off-guardian.org\/2021\/03\/15\/when-it-comes-to-vaccines-suddenly-from-vs-with-matters-again\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/off-guardian.org\/2021\/03\/15\/when-it-comes-to-vaccines-suddenly-from-vs-with-matters-again\/\" target=\"_blank\">OffGuardian - When it comes to vaccines, suddenly \u201cfrom vs with\u201d matters again<\/a><br><em>Temps de lecture: 7-8 minutes.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator is-style-dots\" \/>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>As we all know by now, countries all around the world define \u201cCovid deaths\u201d as \u201cpeople who die, of any cause, within 30 days of a positive test result\u201d (the number of days changes by country, it\u2019s usually between 28 and 60).<\/em><br>---<br><em>Comme nous le savons tous maintenant, les pays du monde entier d\u00e9finissent les \"d\u00e9c\u00e8s dus au Covid\" comme \"les personnes qui d\u00e9c\u00e8dent, quelle qu'en soit la cause, dans les 30 jours suivant un r\u00e9sultat positif au test\" (le nombre de jours varie selon les pays, il se situe g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement entre 28 et 60).<\/em><\/p><cite>Kit Knightly<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em>The establishment is going out of its way to make sure everyone understands that anybody who gets ill, or dies, after being vaccinated, is absolutely NOT a \u201cvaccine death\u201d.<\/em><\/em><br>---<br><em>L'establishment fait tout son possible pour que tout le monde comprenne que toute personne qui tombe malade ou meurt apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 vaccin\u00e9e n'est absolument PAS un \"d\u00e9c\u00e8s d\u00fb au vaccin\".<\/em><\/p><cite>Kit Knightly<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em><em>You see, it\u2019s important not take deaths out of context. After all, many of the people who die after being vaccinated are old and frail and already seriously ill. We need to be \u201ccareful about causation\u201d, just because event B happened after event A, does not mea<\/em><\/em>n A caused B to happen.<\/em><\/p><p><em>In other words: There is a difference between with and from.<\/em><\/p><p><em>Hmmm. Does that argument sound familiar to anyone else?<\/em><br>---<br><em>Vous voyez, il est important de ne pas sortir les d\u00e9c\u00e8s de leur contexte. Apr\u00e8s tout, bon nombre des personnes qui meurent apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 vaccin\u00e9es sont \u00e2g\u00e9es, fragiles et d\u00e9j\u00e0 gravement malades. Nous devons \u00eatre \"prudents en mati\u00e8re de causalit\u00e9\", car ce n'est pas parce que l'\u00e9v\u00e9nement B s'est produit apr\u00e8s l'\u00e9v\u00e9nement A que A a caus\u00e9 l'\u00e9v\u00e9nement B.<\/em><\/p><p><em>En d'autres termes : Il y a une diff\u00e9rence entre avec et de.<\/em><\/p><p><em>Hmmm. Cet argument est-il familier \u00e0 quelqu'un d'autre ?<\/em><\/p><cite>Kit Knightly<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em><em>Essentially, if you die within two months of testing positive for Sars-Cov-2, you\u2019re a \u201cCovid death\u201d, and if you die within two minutes of getting the vaccine, you\u2019re a coincidence.<\/em><\/em><\/em><br>---<br><em>En gros, si vous mourez dans les deux mois qui suivent un test positif au Sars-Cov-2, vous \u00eates un \"mort Covid\", et si vous mourez dans les deux minutes qui suivent l'administration du vaccin, vous \u00eates une co\u00efncidence.<\/em><\/p><cite>Kit Knightly<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em><em>If they want to define a \u201cCovid death\u201d as dying within 60 days of a positive test, fine. But then anyone who dies within two months of getting vaccinated is a \u201cvaccine death\u201d. And they should have those two big red numbers counting up, right next to each other, on the front page of every news website in the world.<\/em><\/em><\/em><br>---<br><em>S'ils veulent d\u00e9finir un \"d\u00e9c\u00e8s d\u00fb au Covid\" comme un d\u00e9c\u00e8s dans les 60 jours suivant un test positif, tr\u00e8s bien. Mais alors toute personne qui meurt dans les deux mois apr\u00e8s avoir \u00e9t\u00e9 vaccin\u00e9e est un \"d\u00e9c\u00e8s d\u00fb au vaccin\". Et ils devraient faire figurer ces deux gros chiffres rouges, l'un \u00e0 c\u00f4t\u00e9 de l'autre, \u00e0 la une de tous les sites d'information du monde.<\/em><\/p><cite>Kit Knightly<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Un article r\u00e9v\u00e9lateur de la part de OffGuardian sur le changement de discours entre \"mourir avec une maladie\" ou \"mourir d'une maladie\", en particulier en ce qui concerne le covid et le vaccin.Si la question avait \u00e9t\u00e9 retir\u00e9 du d\u00e9bat concernant la mortalit\u00e9 du covid, elle revient en force avec la mortalit\u00e9 du vaccin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[77,20,12,17,19],"tags":[28,31],"class_list":["post-1205","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-covid19","category-danger-vaccin","category-mortalite","category-ressources","category-vaccin","tag-relativiser","tag-vaccin"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1205","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1205"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1205\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2223,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1205\/revisions\/2223"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1205"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1205"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1205"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}