{"id":1607,"date":"2021-06-18T12:10:18","date_gmt":"2021-06-18T12:10:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/covid1984.nohost.me\/blog\/?p=1607"},"modified":"2022-08-20T11:05:03","modified_gmt":"2022-08-20T11:05:03","slug":"le-nhs-indique-quil-faut-identifier-les-patients-reellement-malades-du-covid-19-separement-de-ceux-dont-le-test-est-positif","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/2021\/06\/18\/le-nhs-indique-quil-faut-identifier-les-patients-reellement-malades-du-covid-19-separement-de-ceux-dont-le-test-est-positif\/","title":{"rendered":"Le NHS indique qu'il faut identifier les patients r\u00e9ellement malades du Covid-19 s\u00e9par\u00e9ment de ceux dont le test est positif."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Le National Health Service anglais (NHS), demande officiellement de dissocier les hospitalisations <strong>en raison<\/strong> du covid et <strong>avec<\/strong> le covid.<br>Les propos complotistes consistant \u00e0 dire que les \"cas covid\" ne sont pas forc\u00e9ment malades deviennent donc \u00e0 pr\u00e9sent une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 officielle...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-subtle-pale-pink-background-color has-background\"><tbody><tr><td><em>Pour les articles qui ne sont pas en fran\u00e7ais, vous pouvez utiliser <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.deepl.com\/translator\" target=\"_blank\">DeepL<\/a> pour traduire le texte en fran\u00e7ais.<\/em><\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/health\/coronavirus-hospitals-nhs-england-data-b1862804.html\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/health\/coronavirus-hospitals-nhs-england-data-b1862804.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Independant - NHS told to identify patients actually sick from Covid-19 separately to those testing positive<\/a><br><em>Temps de lecture: 5-6 minutes.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em>Hospitals have been told to change the way they collect data on patients infected with coronavirus to differentiate between those actually sick with symptoms and those who test positive while seeking treatment for something else.<\/em><br>---<br><em>Les h\u00f4pitaux ont \u00e9t\u00e9 invit\u00e9s \u00e0 modifier la mani\u00e8re dont ils recueillent les donn\u00e9es sur les patients infect\u00e9s par le coronavirus, afin de faire la distinction entre les personnes r\u00e9ellement malades et celles dont le test est positif alors qu'elles cherchent \u00e0 se faire soigner pour autre chose.<\/em><\/p><cite>Shaun Lintern pour The Independent<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em>The move would reduce the overall number of patients in hospital for coronavirus as until now data from hospitals has included all patients who tested positive for Covid-19, regardless of whether they had symptoms or not.<\/em><\/em><br>---<br><em>Cette mesure permettrait de r\u00e9duire le nombre total de patients hospitalis\u00e9s pour cause de coronavirus, car jusqu'\u00e0 pr\u00e9sent, les donn\u00e9es des h\u00f4pitaux incluaient tous les patients test\u00e9s positifs au Covid-19, qu'ils pr\u00e9sentent ou non des sympt\u00f4mes.<\/em><\/p><cite>Shaun Lintern pour The Independent<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em><em>NHS England has instructed hospitals to make the change to the daily flow of data sent by NHS trusts and told The Independent that the move was being done to help analyse the effect of the vaccine programme and whether it was successfully reducing Covid-19 sickness.<\/em><\/em><\/em><br>---<br><em>NHS England a demand\u00e9 aux h\u00f4pitaux d'apporter ce changement au flux quotidien de donn\u00e9es envoy\u00e9 par les trusts NHS et a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 \u00e0 The Independent que ce changement \u00e9tait fait pour aider \u00e0 analyser l'effet du programme de vaccination et pour savoir s'il r\u00e9ussissait \u00e0 r\u00e9duire les maladies de Covid-19.<\/em><\/p><cite>Shaun Lintern pour The Independent<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p><em><em><em>One NHS source said the new data would be \u201cmore realistic\u201d as not all patients were sick with the virus, adding: \u201cBut it will make figures look better as there have always been some, for example stroke [patients], who also had Covid as an incidental finding\u201d.<\/em><\/em><\/em><br>---<br><em>Une source du NHS a d\u00e9clar\u00e9 que les nouvelles donn\u00e9es seraient \"plus r\u00e9alistes\" car tous les patients n'\u00e9taient pas atteints par le virus, ajoutant : \"Mais les chiffres para\u00eetront meilleurs, car il y a toujours eu des patients, par exemple des patients victimes d'un accident vasculaire c\u00e9r\u00e9bral (AVC), pour lesquels le Covid a \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9couvert par hasard.<\/em><\/p><cite>Shaun Lintern pour The Independent<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Impossible de ne pas s'arr\u00eater sur cette annonce qui d\u00e9voile que de nombreux \"complotistes\" disaient vrai depuis un an en affirmant que les chiffres des hospitalisations \u00e9taient sur\u00e9valu\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On notera \u00e9galement que la mesure vise \u00e0 \"\u00e9valuer\" l'effet de la vaccination.<br>Consid\u00e9r\u00e9 autrement, cette mesure va m\u00e9caniquement baisser le nombre de \"cas covid\" en h\u00f4pital, et donc d\u00e9montrer, tout aussi m\u00e9caniquement que la vaccination est un succ\u00e8s. En r\u00e9alit\u00e9, la vaccination n'est en rien li\u00e9 \u00e0 cette baisse de cas, puisque c'est seulement la m\u00e9thode de calcul qui change !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Cela rappelle les <a href=\"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/2021\/05\/13\/les-cdc-modifient-les-regles-de-comptabilisation-des-cas-de-covid-car-de-plus-en-plus-de-personnes-entierement-vaccinees-presentent-des-resultats-positifs\/\" data-type=\"URL\" data-id=\"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/2021\/05\/13\/les-cdc-modifient-les-regles-de-comptabilisation-des-cas-de-covid-car-de-plus-en-plus-de-personnes-entierement-vaccinees-presentent-des-resultats-positifs\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">changements de m\u00e9thode de calcul du CDC<\/a>, pour les m\u00eames raisons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-css-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Le site Off-Guardian offre une analyse tr\u00e8s int\u00e9ressante du sujet.<br><a href=\"https:\/\/off-guardian.org\/2021\/06\/11\/the-nhs-just-changed-how-they-count-covid-cases-heres-why\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The NHS just changed how they count Covid \u201ccases\u201d\u2026here\u2019s why.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Le National Health Service anglais (NHS), demande officiellement de dissocier les hospitalisations en raison du covid et avec le covid.Les propos complotistes consistant \u00e0 dire que les \"cas covid\" ne sont pas forc\u00e9ment malades deviennent donc \u00e0 pr\u00e9sent une r\u00e9alit\u00e9 officielle...<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[77,16,17,19],"tags":[28,31],"class_list":["post-1607","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-covid19","category-reanimation","category-ressources","category-vaccin","tag-relativiser","tag-vaccin"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1607","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1607"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1607\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1964,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1607\/revisions\/1964"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1607"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1607"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/crudelis.fr\/site\/covid1984\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1607"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}